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Council targets roadside car sales



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Published Date: 28 August 2008
Plans are in place to create a line of time-restricted parking bays along a Northampton street to combat the problem of unauthorised car sales.
In three of the town's streets alone, the Chronicle & Echo yesterday found 39 cars for sale, with 20 in East Park Parade, Kingsley, 15 along the stretch of Wellingborough Road between Lime Avenue and Beech Avenue, and four in Mill Lane, Semilong.

Councillor Richard Church (Lib Dem, Kingsthorpe) revealed Northamptonshire County Council was now looking at introducing time-restricted parking bays along East Park Parade, between The White Elephant and The Picturedrome pubs, later this year.

He said the measure would only be enforced during weekdays, adding: "We would hope that it would be done with minimal inconvenience to residents."

Current powers only allow action to be taken if two or more vehicles for sale can be proven to be owned by the same person.

However, this is often impossible because the mobile phone numbers displayed in vehicles tend to be different.

At the beginning of 2007, time restrictions were introduced to a stretch of Wellingborough Road opposite Tesco Express, but it appears the problem has only been moved elsewhere, with the stretch of road next to Abington Park becoming one of the latest hotspots.

Abington Park Nursery has complained to the council because the unwanted cars have led to parents having trouble parking.

On Monday there were 22 cars at that location.

Northampton Borough Council leader Tony Woods (Lib Dem, St Davids) said the authority was doing all it could to solve the problem.

He said: "The powers we have are really not strong enough to be effective. We can move it around but if a car is taxed and insured it can park legally.

"We are investigating local bylaws but at the moment it's extremely difficult."

Last month, Kate Connell, secretary of Far Cotton Residents Association, said she had had success by tackling the problem with the help of neighbourhood wardens, despite no powers existing in Northampton to punish the car dealers.

She told the Chron: "What I find sometimes works is to get a neighbourhood warden to have a quiet word. Although they don't have any direct power to stop car sales, they can hand out fines if the road tax is out of date, for example."

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  • Last Updated: 28 August 2008 11:25 AM
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Whaddon,

28/08/2008 11:55:40
Yeah if the cars are legally allowed to be on the road I agree, problem is when there is a potential 'car lot' on a grass verge or layby then really I dont think its acceptable. I think stricter rules should apply and the best way to stop it is to boycott these people.
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Fullingdale,

Northampton 28/08/2008 13:18:54
It's okay if they're taxed ... would you still be saying that if they were parked outside your house or at a place where you drop off young children, etc.,?

Personally, I've found it useful as I have been able to check over quite a few cars in a short space of time, when I've been looking for one, but I can appreciate why it would frustrate residents.

However, I don't think that "timed spaces" are the answer as that will still affect residents and visitors.

I saw a street in North London where they have signs saying that the trading of vehicles at the roadside is illegal. That seems to work.

I also know of one shopkeeper who used to (and probably still does) cover the signs on the vehicles with a sheet of paper - sometimes with quite humourous outcomes!

Quote: "Current powers only allow action to be taken if two or more vehicles for sale can be proven to be owned by the same person." - Question: "What power is that?"

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Des Borough,

28/08/2008 13:56:46
In my experience, these cars are sold with various faults which will not become apparent until you have been driving it a few days.

The majority of people that sell these cars are out to make a quick killing at the expense of the inexperienced car buyer.

If anyone is tempted to buy one of these cars, please ask the AA or an experienced mechanic to look it over before handing over the money, if the 'salesman' has got nothing to hide, he will be happy to allow this to happen.
Don't forget, these cars are 'sold as seen' with no guarantee, they could be stolen for all you know!

Handing over any money to these people without checking the car maybe as good as signing your own death certificate!!
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mack69,

Northampton 28/08/2008 14:12:55
what an excuse that owners cannot be found due to several mobile phone numbers
If the cars are taxed,insured,MOT`d then DVLA must know the address of the owners,if not then we have a big problem if these vehicles are involved in an accident,reporting an unlicenced vehicle that was being used every day,took DVLA 12 weeks before the driver of the vehicle was warned of no tax disc,it was then taxed but the driver used it on public roads for over 3 months for free, where is the law its a farce
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Roger Mellie,

Northampton 28/08/2008 14:35:44
Big deal. Provided the cars are taxed and legal, so what? The council should divert this effort into doing something useful for thepeople it serves for a change.
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robert angus,

28/08/2008 16:04:32
Bring in a bylaw to make it illegle to sell cars on the highway, and then take them away and crush them
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TheCountOfNowhere,

Northampton 28/08/2008 16:37:54
These cars are obviously being sold as part of a comerical venture.

Other car dealers have to pay for offices/car yard and have associated costs/taxes.

These people are nothing more than tax dodgers trying to make a fast buck at all out expenses.

Most of teh cars ive seen are tatty and mess the place up.

Call the sellers and arrest them for littering, that should stop them. The residents of the places have had enough.

Also, they are taking away legitimate parking spaces from residents.
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Fullingdale,

Northampton 28/08/2008 16:55:34
I would totally agreed with the comments from Des ... though I may buy one of these vehicles I would have it checked over by a mechanic (that I know) and get a check done by the AA (for about £25) to make sure it's legit. I would test drive it and having noted the address from the registration document that's where the test drive should go ... fill in the paperwork inside the person's house so that you know that it's where they live (or at least that they know the people there) and that you have an address to start the ball rolling should something go wrong. I would also never go buy/sell a car alone - take a friend with you, even if they don't know anything about cars.

Perhaps that's an idea ... a big STICKY (hard to remove STICKY) yellow notice to warn the public about the risks of buying vehicles at the roadside.
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Northants Ex Pat,

In me house eating sweets and pop 28/08/2008 17:23:33
One of the bad sites i`ve seen is near the BP garage by Kings Heath.

As if walking around that area with a wad of "poppy" in your pocket is not not risky enough?

But to buy one of these dodgy jallopies from a dole fiddler come bennefit fraudster come used auto trader must be tantamount to lunacy!
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martyn robinson,

28/08/2008 18:56:38
Why arnt the inland revenue and the VAT men not involved?
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